Mod: GR STI Front Knuckles on a GD WRX

This modification was mostly inspired by the 22B owners looking for a better bearing solution for their Subies. In 2008, Subaru switched to a bolt-in bearing for their front 5×100 hubs. To make this work for earlier models, an 8mm CV spacer is needed between the axle and the hub.

Since I plan on going with 5×114.3 eventually, I decided go with a set GR STi knuckles that I found for pretty cheap. GD STi parts are getting expensive so finding compatible parts is becoming more helpful.

GR STi Front Knuckles and Hubs

Comparing the GR STi knuckle to the GD WRX there are a few changes. The most obvious is the bolt-in bearing (the bolts were removed for another comparison) vs the press-in bearing. The strut mount is wider and taller on the GR STi and the tie rod arm seems shorter and a bit lower on the GR STi. Although that could be the difference between the space the bolt-in hub takes up now. And there is a big section of cast iron between the caliper mounts on the GR knuckle as well. I’m not sure what that added material is for (probably added strength) but it interfered with my Evo Brembos. I thought about cutting it off but I when with some reman STi Brembos instead.

If the tie rod arms are shorter then that should improve the steering rate. The closer the tie rods are to the pivot point (SAI) the quicker the knuckles should turn at the cost of heavier steering.

5×114.3 v 5×100 Bolt-In Bearings

One thing that surprised me what the physical difference between the bolt in 5×100 and 5×114.3 bearings. I guess I shouldn’t have been surprised but the 5×100 hubs look really small in comparison.

Unfortunately, the bolt pattern is slightly different so they aren’t interchangeable; at least not without some machining.

The shot below really shows the difference between the two hubs.

Subaru front suspension has remained relatively unchanged since at least the 1990s. It depends on what hub bolt pattern you have. So upgrading your front suspension is doable as long as your struts, brakes, and axles will work together.

For bolt-in 5×100 bearings, the front cv axles are the problem. The GD splines stop at around 8mm before the face of the cv joint.

As a result, the axle will not full seat on 5×100 bolt-in bearings.

The 5×100 bearing splines also start sooner…

Whereas the 5×114.3 bearings have more of a recess before the splines.

So to fix this issue, people have been making 8mm cv spacers to take up the gap.

Image Source: bbs.22b.com user “GF8 Sti” [link]

GR axles do not have that space between the splines and the cv joint face, and if have a transmission that doesn’t use axle stubs then GR axles might be an option. Conversely, if you have axle stubs, then you can either convert to 5×114.3; use 8mm spacers; pull the stubs out (requires splitting the transmission), or potentially making hybrid axles with either GD trans ends on GR axles or GR hub ends on GD axles.

This is one reason I made the CV axle table. Subaru’s are legos but finding the right pieces can sometimes be a nightmare when you need to make custom parts. Considering how inconsistent the shaft splines are, you have to take the axles apart to verify, I decided to run GR knuckles and keep my stock axles.

The install is straightforward. Although if you have ABS I’m not sure what needs to be done to keep it. I deleted my ABS some time ago.

Also, in case you are wondering, the GR STi knuckles are heavier: 14.5 lbs v 19.3 lbs.

The next update will probably be my new wheels.

Cheers!

10 responses to “Mod: GR STI Front Knuckles on a GD WRX”

  1. What’s the strut solution? GR struts I assume or coilovers?

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    1. I’m still running GD STi struts/RCE Yellows from my old 2005 STi.

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  2. One question, did the steering angle change?

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    1. In terms of alignement, they may have changed a little bit but I don’t remember.

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  3. pleasantdestiny49eb8ed088 Avatar
    pleasantdestiny49eb8ed088

    Hello, how can I contact you? I need to ask you a question, to see how the ABD spline looks once mounted on the knuckle with the 5×100 bearing and the 8 spacer, to see if I could adapt the ABS sensor.

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  4. My email is chipioo@hotmail.com. I have several questions, have you had to remove the knurled ring from the ABS tip, or is it left outside, in order to be able to attach the sensor?

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    1. Howdy! I’m not sure how helpful I can be as I never used the ABS setup with the 5×100 bolt-on hubs. In fact, I switched to 5×114.3 hubs/knuckles up front and I deleted my ABS setup years ago. My guess is that you will need an ABS ring spacer (and maybe a spacer for the sensor) to get things to line up properly. LIC Motorsport used to make the ring spacers, but they went out of business awhile ago. And it looks like the 22b forum I referenced is gone. Also, I don’t have a 5×100 bolt-on hub front knuckle to reference either. Unfortunately, they are different knuckles.

      There is more info on the swap here.
      https://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?p=45926789#post45926789

      Hopefully, that helps!

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      1. thank you so much

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  5. JARED S TREADWAY Avatar
    JARED S TREADWAY

    Would you happen to know if the 08+ knuckles for the 5×100 would work with 2nd Gen Forester(SG) struts? Would the GD style control arms be compatible with the knuckle change?

    Thank You,

    -Jared

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    1. I’m not familiar with the SG chassis, although Subaru doesn’t change much between their chassis. The knuckle design is more or less the same between most models. The big change is in the front lca rear mount. GDs are horizontal and GRs are vertical. The other issue is the ABS sensor. I’m not sure what’s compatible with what since I deleted my ABS system.

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